UFO's & Aliens

[joeydeacon]

Who believes in them ? Anyone ever met one

[Despite]

Nope never met one but im 2000% sure they exist :D And I also dont think we landed on the moon

[Despite]

Ya and there is a special premiering soon on finding other planets just like Earth. And ya about the moonlanding thing, go on youtube and see some of the videos... its some pretty convincing stuff and concidering we never went back and no one else has done it but us???

[joeydeacon]

what about the secret base on the moon and the U.S government has been warned off by aliens theory.

[joeydeacon]

show me, haha

[Despite]

no didnt they just get into space before us. And also I would take a look at the videos and watch them before u make assumptions

[jaz1]

I believe that somewhere in space there is life but i dont believe in aliens & UFOs around the earth.

[Despite]

AH JAZ u disappoint me there is so much footage of legit UFO sightings

[joeydeacon]

I think a lot of sightings are top secret planes but some stuff is just unexplainable

[Despite]

lol true forgot about that

[joeydeacon]

how do we all die ?

[jaz1]

AH JAZ u disappoint me there is so much footage of legit UFO sightings
hehe :D
I think different pictures can be photoshoped, videos on youtube can be fake, everyone can go and make circles in the fields etc. I haven't seen any UFO and neither i read about any proof in known newspaper. (i dont trust videos anyone can make on youtube etc)
And i think if there were aliens and they were able to find us they should have technology advanced enough to hide from people. And since there are billions of planets & stars in space i believe that there might be some life other than ours, but there is high chance they are less developped than us. Maybe just some one cell organisms or something like that.

@djkneegrow: maybe till 21.12.2012 we'll be already living on some other planet xD

[Despite]

AHH JAZ ur killin me... first off have u seem some of the crop circles that have been found. NO way in hell would someone in the dark be able to make such an elaborate setup OVER NIGHT without anyone knowing. Cmon be realistic. Second, Aliens could be more advanced than us in some ways and not in others we just cant tell. Also, about the videos, there have been numerous HISTORY CHANNEL specials on how we never landed on the moon

[Despite]

k so if no one actually got to the moon but us we have never tried again then isnt that suspicious. Plus, there are UNEDITED videos of there not being any stars in the sky in some of the footage of a supposed lunar landing. Hmmm no stars? Also there is a video showing the American flag that is supposedly on the moon waving. How is it waving when theres no wind on the moon? Hmmm

[jaz1]

Gotta love this thread :D


first off have u seem some of the crop circles that have been found. NO way in hell would someone in the dark be able to make such an elaborate setup OVER NIGHT without anyone knowing.
Lol i've watched once on discovery or some other channel how easy is it to make circles ... just need a rope and walk in circles ... And you dont need more than 1h to make 3 circles in the field. ;)
I live in smaller town and there are few houses around. But i know that at 4 am everyone is asleep and i could easily go to the nearest wheat field and start making circles if i really wanted to, especially if i had some friends with me for help.


Second, Aliens could be more advanced than us in some ways and not in others we just cant tell. Also, about the videos, there have been numerous HISTORY CHANNEL specials on how we never landed on the moon
emm... what ways? i think brains & technology is the only thing that matters about it :P And if they were more advanced they would be able to hide themselves better. If they were less advanced they wouldn't be able to come to earth :P

no offense, but, why would they wanna fake moon landing? :D

[Despite]

http://img0.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/3323/3323260eec4440273783a3e20a9b59b3d73c8b3.jpg

Alright so im to assume u and your hick friends could do this in one night in the dark with NO problem and have it be absolutely perfect....

@dj: THere is no wind on the moon....

And lol the stars are going to appear burnt my friend because the moon aint exactly much closer to them than the earth. And plus thatd be assuming a couple of days later we would see no more stars on earth.

[Despite]

or maybe ur really good and u and ur buddies made this one

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/3323/33232720decd112cb6b135c853139c66d8eefb0.jpg

[jaz1]

Lol i was talking about simple circles, not like these ones ...
But look, do you think these were made by aliens too?
http://www.circlemakers.org/Img/Shredded_Wheat_06.jpg
http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/photos/2005/uk2005ay.jpg
http://www.circlemakers.org/Img/sudoku_01_05.jpg
Ok, in all seriousness, photos like these can be easily photoshopped. And I can make simple cirlces, if 2 friends help me we can make something better, if 30 people help me we can make some unbelievable things. And if you check your pictures, there aren't many houses around so people could do it maybe even at daylight or in 2 nights. Actually, even the owner of the field himself could have made these signs to become famous.
Im not saying there's absolutely no chance that aliens or other beings exist. But i think it's kinda ridiculous that they have technology to travel half of the universe to come to earth and then they "draw" into the fields. If they were able to come to us, they would also be able to destroy us. And if they were able to destroy us, they shouldn't be scared to show theirselves and try to communicate some other way.

[Despite]

but see u cant assume that kind of stuff

[bhachuj]

X Files- I Can Believe so yes

[bhachuj]

where did u see the documentary? downloaded?

[bhachuj]

oh ok im so slow

[jaz1]

but see u cant assume that kind of stuff
yes but you can assume there's nothing if you dont see it. You cant assume there is something because it could be and you just didnt see it ...

It's like if i was saying that every person has his ghost walking 24/7 next to him ... You cant prove me im wrong (the ghost could be invisible, undetectable, etc etc), but that doesn't make me right ...

[Despite]

o god im done with this discussion

[jaz1]

so you think existence of ghist is more rational explanation than that you were maybe under a lot of stress because of your grandma's death and you could imagined these things, or just forgot to close the fridge and then imagine rest of the things?

[Despite]

Ya I totally believe you dj because similar things have happened to me or someone in my family. Going back to aliens.... how can someonesay that Earth is the only planet with life on it when there are trillions of planets and solar systems... thats just stupid. Also, how can you assume there cant be ghosts when u dont what it is to be dead. For all you know our soul could go to a pitch black abyss and we'd stay there forever... you just dont know

[jaz1]

omg i cant believe im still posting here but ok ...
@djkneegrow: Look, people in the past weren't able to explain things by their mind so they explained them by gods, mythological creatures, ghosts etc. (What's a lightening bolt? It was sent by Zeus! What's a vulcano? Damn, gods of underworld are angry! Why is there a solar eclipse? Ohh no, we'll have to sacrifice some people etc etc) And i think you're thinking the way people were thinking 2000 years ago. You trust your eyes and hearing and believe in unreasonable things without thinking. And things you can't explain must be caused by aliens or ghosts ... Brain is a complicated mass of cells and you have no idea what amazing things it can do (Even make you believe you see things that arent real). And because I haven't seen something (like 1B dollars) it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. But if i sent you a photoshoped picture of a cow with chicken head, would you believe that it exists just because you saw it?
And you still didnt give me a reasonable proof of aliens yet ...

@Despite: What is it like to be dead? Simmilar to being in a deep sleep or coma just without waking up or dreaming. Brain isnt aware of things around you. And in contrary to sleeping, not because it's recovering but because it simply doesnt work.
What soul? Explain me what is a soul please? Do you have it? Are you sure you have it? Can you feel it? Do every person have it? What about animals? What about plants? Do they have souls too? What do you have to be to have your soul?? Do souls of people (and animals & plants if you think they have them) go somewhere after death? Fly around the world? Darn they must be everywhere then!
I bet you'll just say some s*** how you can't believe what am i talking or how you believe in ghosts etc etc and you wont answer any of these questions.

[joeydeacon]

There is no proof aliens exist but there is a lot of evidence.

You have no proof they don't exist have you ?

[Despite]

Well i dont know what it is like to be dead, but if u would give it a chance and did some research i think it would change ur mind budday

[joeydeacon]

President Obama has decided to act quickly and decisively in instructing all adminstration officials to take action to implement principles of Open Government and Transparency. In the case of classified X-Files dealing with evidence of UFOs and extraterrestrial life, Obama’s Memoranda will make it easier for the release of such files in cases where national security is not compromised. The consequences of the release of X-Files of different government agencies and military departments will be momentous if they confirm that extraterrestrial life is visiting Earth.

[Despite]

O god thanks for this post... finally some stuff that should've been released will be. I still doubt that jaz will change his mind but then again he hasnt really been open to discussion at all here he just posts more questions and thinks his elite team of crop makers could make something of the sort in one night

[jaz1]

There is no proof aliens exist but there is a lot of evidence.

You have no proof they don't exist have you ?
There's no proof flying tigers exist. You have no proof they don't exist do you? :rolleyes:

[joeydeacon]

there is no evidence flying tigers exist

[jaz1]

I can photoshop one picture if you really want it.

[joeydeacon]

lots of people who were at roswell have come out and said that it happend, mostly people on their death bed, but also a few military too. there are hundreds of reports by trustworthy people but they get laughed at. Eh jez

[jaz1]

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff161/gr8estwolflover/flying_tiger.jpg

Oh no, they exist!!! We are doomed! (well ... i didnt make them... it's 4:10 am here so i just googled them ;))
Anyway, what i was saying is: you can't prove something doesn't exist, you can only prove something does exist. And the same applies for ghosts & aliens.

[Omega]

Hey speaking of Aliens, I think they made this crop circle:

http://torrentinvite.com/images/firefox_cropcircle.jpg

So are they trying to tell us that IE sucks? Pretty smart aliens.

[Despite]

Lol wikipedia... idk couldnt tell u if thats real or not maybe jaz could cuz hes good at knowing whats real or not

[joeydeacon]

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff161/gr8estwolflover/flying_tiger.jpg

Oh no, they exist!!! We are doomed! (well ... i didnt make them... it's 4:10 am here so i just googled them ;))
Anyway, what i was saying is: you can't prove something doesn't exist, you can only prove something does exist. And the same applies for ghosts & aliens.


That tiger is not flying it is stood on the floor

[jaz1]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2753609573_9a06ce510c_t.jpg
So now they arent real?

[joeydeacon]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2753609573_9a06ce510c_t.jpg
So now they arent real?


That looks like a swimming tiger to me, it is in the sea

[Despite]

Yes and my eyes dont work good so we'll say its an owl

[jaz1]

yes, this is so much more likely to exist!
http://www.unexplainable.net/images/upload/alien3.jpg

[joeydeacon]

yes, this is so much more likely to exist!
http://www.unexplainable.net/images/upload/alien3.jpg

congratulations on your first sensible post in this thread :icon_thumright:

[Despite]

Ahhh i thought my posts were good.... this is disheartening

[joeydeacon]

I was being sarcastic Despite, you have done some great posts in this thread

[Despite]

I think its ignorant for someone to think we are the only ones in the entire SPACE, which has trillions upon trillions of stars, to have intelligent life.

[Despite]

Well actually a lot of what he theorized has been proven incorrect fyi..

[Despite]

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I urge you guys to watch this... I just want to know what you think of it

[Nosterdamus]

I am with despite, i think they do exist...

[Despite]

Woot thanks man

[xieclark]

There is a great book, "The Privileged Planet", about how remarkably rare our planet is - that because we are the perfect distance away from our sun and our moon, and a whole bunch of other perfectly balanced things, it makes life possible on Earth. . But we cant be the only one's out here. this balance must be able to happen elsewhere. There are just too many other planets, galaxy's, possibilities. That and i really think that I have been abducted by aliens. It's a weird story and it basically starts with me staying at my grandma's house in rural Ohio (of course there is corn field in the backyard), having really strange dreams and ends with me waking up and water running out of both of my ears. it was a bizarre experience and I think we are not alone.

[Despite]

Whoa thats intense man. I mean just think at how infinitely large space is, there HAS to be other planets like our own.

[tommyasdf]

it is possible that there are aliens but them around the earth is an idea I believe not to be true.
see if they want to contact us then why UFO's appear for a little time and not in the middle of a city or where they could talk face to face.
And if the appearences are by mistake..like if they are here to study humans...well its hard to think that a race which is advance
enough to come to the earth but advance enough to keep hidden.

[canibus2677]

i don't know what to believe!

[kol360]

i dont think there are any in the milky way but beyond the milky way proberbly

[stumped]

I believe they exist..but they are tooooooooo far away, for either of us (earth) and the aliens to meet.

[thedoctor]

i am sure they exist

[geezup]

They exist if they didnt we wouldn't have so many rumors and sightings

[chavez]

no didnt they just get into space before us. And also I would take a look at the videos and watch them before u make assumptions

[DrMate0]

Probably they exist, 'cause it's imposible that we're only one cilization in universe.

[Skippy666]

For 30 years i have seen one but i dont know that it was an Flying Saucer.

[smith]

i believe in them because alien are there in somewhere in universe ..!!

[MarsVolta513]

Hey man no lie I saw one once

[bradtricker]

The moon landing happened. The reason we haven't been there sense is because at the time it was funded by war efforts. (yes the cold war) It's sad how the desire to dominate and destroy others prevails over making advancements as mankind.

As for UFO's.
I will point you to a video by a famous astrophysicist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfAzaDyae-k