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[Despite]

thank u for this dj..... This is exactly what ive been talking about. There are BILLIONS upon TRILLIONS of planets and stars and galaxies out there and this proof of methane on Mars shows the it is in just one of the stages to getting life or maybe the reintroduction of life on the planet. How could you be naive enough to say u and some buddies could make elaborate crop circles, I BET U WOULDNT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START. Im going to start uploading videos from Nasa spacecraft and lets see what u and ur buddies can do with them

[bhachuj]

i agree with despite.

[jaz1]

@djkneegrow: you read me like a book :D


thank u for this dj..... This is exactly what ive been talking about. There are BILLIONS upon TRILLIONS of planets and stars and galaxies out there and this proof of methane on Mars shows the it is in just one of the stages to getting life or maybe the reintroduction of life on the planet. How could you be naive enough to say u and some buddies could make elaborate crop circles, I BET U WOULDNT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START. Im going to start uploading videos from Nasa spacecraft and lets see what u and ur buddies can do with them
Hmm okay ...
Yes there are billions of planets & stars, but if there's methane on the nearest planet to the earth it doesnt mean it's everywhere. First of all, on stars there's few thousand degrees and no species can live there. Many planets are too far away from any star -> no life there either (Living cells can't develop if all (or most) of the elements are solid which happens at around 50K (~ -220°C) so there cant be any life either) I'd even say that where's temperature less than ~100K there can't be any life, because most of the hydrocarbons are solid and no cells can be made from them.
Sure there COULD be life. But earth developped to this phase in ~5billion years. If any other planet started developping like 1% years later than the earth and with same speed, it means we're 50 million years before them. And if it started like 1% before us, they should be 50 million years more developped than us and they should be already able to extinct us.
Secondly, you were saying how big the universe is and how many stars there are. That means if there were "aliens" they should be able to build a spaceship to travel through all of the space (and find us) and even if they travelled at the speed of light they would travel 93.000.000.000 years (diameter is at least 93 billion light years, or 880 ×10^24m) which means they should travel with ~6 times the speed of light and have their spaceship ready at the first day of the universe and start flying to the earth at that day and be still alive (probably they should have farms on their ship or something xD).
I hope you got my point ... sure there can be life, but even if there is on the other side of the universe, they cant just come here as if it was a trip to the vacations for us ...
Ok now, please give me 1 RATIONAL reason for existence of aliens and explanation why you think they are flying (or walking or sth) around the earth. I don't want proof like pictures or saying you saw a video or just saying you know that. Explain me just by your mind please. Thx :)
Flame on!:p

[joeydeacon]

@djkneegrow: you read me like a book :D


Hmm okay ...
Yes there are billions of planets & stars, but if there's methane on the nearest planet to the earth it doesnt mean it's everywhere. First of all, on stars there's few thousand degrees and no species can live there. Many planets are too far away from any star -> no life there either (Living cells can't develop if all (or most) of the elements are solid which happens at around 50K (~ -220°C) so there cant be any life either) I'd even say that where's temperature less than ~100K there can't be any life, because most of the hydrocarbons are solid and no cells can be made from them.
Sure there COULD be life. But earth developped to this phase in ~5billion years. If any other planet started developping like 1% years later than the earth and with same speed, it means we're 50 million years before them. And if it started like 1% before us, they should be 50 million years more developped than us and they should be already able to extinct us.
Secondly, you were saying how big the universe is and how many stars there are. That means if there were "aliens" they should be able to build a spaceship to travel through all of the space (and find us) and even if they travelled at the speed of light they would travel 93.000.000.000 years (diameter is at least 93 billion light years, or 880 ×10^24m) which means they should travel with ~6 times the speed of light and have their spaceship ready at the first day of the universe and start flying to the earth at that day and be still alive (probably they should have farms on their ship or something xD).
I hope you got my point ... sure there can be life, but even if there is on the other side of the universe, they cant just come here as if it was a trip to the vacations for us ...
Ok now, please give me 1 RATIONAL reason for existence of aliens and explanation why you think they are flying (or walking or sth) around the earth. I don't want proof like pictures or saying you saw a video or just saying you know that. Explain me just by your mind please. Thx :)
Flame on!:p

Someone clearly does not understand wormholes, also what if they live inside the earth and have done for a long time ? We only live on the surface

[jaz1]

Ok lets think the other way ... if us from earth found another planet with living beings on it. Would we hide or we'd at least send a spaceship to land there with some messages & materials & information about the earth? Im 100% sure that if we found planet like this, we wouldn't just observe it, so why would aliens try to hide?

[joeydeacon]

have you actually noticed how hostile and violent humans are ????

[joeydeacon]

look at how people treat other races of the same species, how would aliens think they will be treated.

[jaz1]

If they are able to come to use, able to hide from us, they are probably able to destroy us too, then why hide?

[Despite]

What would the reason be? Are you assuming again that just because they can destroy us they will?

[jaz1]

If they are able to defend them well there's no need to hide.

[Despite]

Ya but why would you automatically say O they'll destroy us just for fun

[jaz1]

Not for the fun. They could show themselves. And if we attacked them they would defend them easily.

[jaz1]

Well .. i agree with you on that but if they were just gathering information, why would they make circles in the fields? :)

[Despite]

Why would governments hold back thousands of UFO reports from citizens if there werent UFO's around us? What would they have to hide?